Sunday, December 4, 2011

How will the current world crises develop, year by year, until 2020

Today I was calculating in detail when is this period of crises going to bottom down.
The answer is between 2017 and 2020.


There is a deepening of this crises between 2012 (or 2013) and 2016.
The very beginning of this next stage of the crises seems to be around June 2012 but more clearly as as 2013 goes by.
It seems to develop gradually but much more intense after November 2013 and March 2014.
It will be a difficult time for most western nations around 2014 and 2015.

The natal Sun, Moon or Angles of many nations will be affected by the powerful square of Uranus in mid Aries and Pluto in mid Capricorn. Just like it happened during the thirties.

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Then, comes 2017 and the drama seems to hit the most destructive and transformation phase. This occurs until the very end of the decade. Between September 2019 and March 2020, there seems to be an event which has massive consequences and changes much.

The intensity of these events is first similar to the scale of the Great Depression but then progresses closer to near world war (but apparently never becoming as dramatic as WWII).

These events will likely be related to economic meltdown, widespread social unrest, wars, and possibility of violent uprisings and civil conflicts.

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At the moment we speculate two scenarios. One is that the Euro debt crises continues and triggers a second and much complicate global meltdown. Somehow the core of Europe and US will be affected by 2014. This causes possibly popular revolts and even civil conflicts by 2016, and progressing into something major by 2019 (much chaos involved).

The other scenario is that a war happens in Iran, but creates a situation out of control, related to widespread war, oil crises, involvement with Russia, possibly even with the use of nukes. The situation becomes a messy drama by 2014, and might reach the worse by 2019; it could even be close to a full scale world war in the late part of the decade.

There is also the change of less likely scenario of other unpredictable events; I think single acts by people that cause great social consequences, use of unforeseen weapons or technology, beginning of movements of mass prosecution and genocide, charismatic leaders causing mass protests... All this dense stuff can happen as often does during transits of Uranus in Aries

After the event around 2019, recovery and hope seems to develop again. By 2025 the collective mood will probably be positive, similar to the scale of globalization and technological advance of the nineties. However, there might still be social revolutions, uprisings and wars, going on, but in a way, things will be going into a constructive direction, with a new world order.

Strangely, there is a cycle relating to American Revolution and Civil War that seems to occur again in 2028, I think this might be the dissolution of the current union of the United States, and maybe even Europe, to form something new.



These predictions are related to the amount of waxing and waning cycles of outer planets. In the nineties, many cycles were waxing and so there was a global wave of positiveness, expansion, globalization and easiness. This reached maximum in a period between June 2000 and June 2001. At that time, Saturn was opposing Pluto, changing completely the balance of power, just as the terrorist attacks of 911 were about to happen.

After 2001, many cycles gradually turn negative. Jupiter also opposed Pluto in 2001, opposed Neptune in 2003, opposed Uranus in 2004, and Saturn opposed Neptune in 2006. This was mostly during Bush years, where optimism (Jupiter) was being lost. However, Jupiter started to make waxing cycles in 2007, so optimism developed again.

Comes 2008, and Saturn opposed Uranus, and a global meltdown happened, just as Saturn was also making a waning square to Pluto, and Uranus making a waxing square to Pluto, making a difficult T-square, but not as destructive as during the Great Depression (because of one waxing square).

Currently, as we have Jupiter opposing Saturn, hence the start a new wave of developing pessimism and loss of hope (this is the first of several Jupiter waning cycles over the next years). More important is the fact that now Saturn is on waning cycle to all outer planets, meaning a full destruction of social structures from now onwards. I can expect a worsening of the crises that started in 2008.

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In late 2013, Jupiter opposes Pluto, it opposes Neptune in mid 2015, and Uranus in mid 2017. We will have then all cycles in waning mode (pessimism, destruction) except those of Neptune/Pluto, Uranus/Pluto, and Uranus/Neptune. This is very important to reflect upon. It is here when the maximum destruction will happen but not as catastrophic as we might fear.

During the WWII; every cycle was negative except Neptune/Pluto - the industrialization of society and idealism in governments. In fact, capitalism and industrialism was probably we only thing that survived after the war. Everything else was seemingly destroyed. Like social structures, governments, alliance between nations, jobs and entire families.

However in 2017-2020, the same destruction will happen, but with two cycles less.
In the sixties Uranus/Pluto started a new revolutionary trend of libertarian values and minorities. And in the nineties a new Uranus/Neptune cycle which relates to mass technologies and communications (the internet, personal computers and mobile phones).

I predict that, in the near future, everything in society will be destroyed except our technological world, libertarian values and industrial capitalist model, and the idea of a need for a globalized world. At least, Google will be saved (lol).

This also makes me see that essentially a third World War cannot happen, because the degree of destruction must astrologically be smaller than during WWII. No full scale nuclear war can happen, but a small regional regional war might. Also a conventional world war can happen, but on a smaller scale than WWII.

Alternatively, we could expect a wave of social uprisings that increase to a widespread series of civil wars, kind of a world on civil wars. It could be between governments and the masses, religions, or political backgrounds.

I am not sure about what scenario will play out.

Whatever happens it will be one of the biggest catalyst to bring forward a new global order, and a wave of social revolutions. The shifting point happens in 2020, and last for about 10 years after.

In 2020, a series of conjunctions will start, first Jupiter/Saturn/Pluto, then in 2025 Saturn/Neptune and Saturn/Uranus in 2030. This seems to be a new balance of power and governments in 2020*, a new idealism and hopes in 2025**, and a new economical model and world order that grows and expands after 2030***.


* Saturn/Pluto conjunctions have occurred before in 1948, 1980, next in 2020, during periods of conflict and tension, and have related to shifts in power balances around the world. This will surely happen during and after the event in 2020, and will relate to countries like US, Europe, China, Russia, Israel and the Arab world.

** Saturn/Neptune conjunctions have occurred in 1918, 1953, 1990, next in 2025, and have brought a new optimism forward, also new idealism. Social revolutions can happen at this time too, as well as pandemics.

*** Saturn/Uranus conjunctions have occurred in 1940, 1990, next in 2030, periods after which a new world order is established. As it was after the sixties that the communism world start falling until the nineties, now we can speculate that some parts of the western world could start falling until a final end around 2030. Surely, this will be the start of a new globalized world as it was after the world war and after 1990.




By 2017, the waning cycles seem to predict a very difficult time, just like it happened at the beginning of WWII. By 2019-2020, there is a significant conjunction involving Mars, Jupiter, Saturn and Pluto, in Capricorn.



9 comments:

Anonymous said...

Wow, thank for for posting again. Do you see anything particular for my country Australia, that giant continent the world ignores

Segurelha said...

Interesting that you ask.

Australia will be hugely affected by the coming changes around 2014.

Because it was born in 1st Jan 1901, and therefore has a 11º Capricorn natal Sun, which will be transited in a dramatic way by Pluto and Uranus, like the US, Germany and the UK.

I believe this change will hit very harshly the US and Europe, and many nations around the world.
Could be economic related, or a sort of civil uprisings against our governments, or any unrest scenario like this.

Like most nations around the world, Australia will have a revolution of sorts and a big change in its identity, across the next 10-15 years.

One possibility could be afirming their independence from the British Monarchy. Watching what has happened in Australia every time Uranus transited Aries (the 1770s, 1840s, 1930s), I believe this is a likely scenario.

Less likely, could be a break up of the confederation, but sincerely I think Australia is still greatly unified. I also don't know how the world will fare, but long term, we might face a world union ands government by 2030, after all the messy events around 2014-2025.

The good thing for Australia is being away physically from all the drama on the northern hemisphere, and due to its good climate, it can be self-reliant.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for you prompt reply. I think those things are possible, but younger right the country is very unified.
I just wonder about the economy the people are in more debt then their American cousins, which as we know can't end well.
I'm just glad we are so far sway from all the action.

Anonymous said...

What about Switzerland for the next 15years ?
It seems best due to the smaller government and good social/health policies.

suma said...
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suma said...

ive read almost all of your blog and just these few comments you made leave me highly higly confused.
(about world war)

"The other scenario is that a war happens in Iran, but creates a situation out of control, related to widespread war, oil crises, involvement with Russia, possibly even with the use of nukes.""I predict that, in the near future, everything in society will be destroyed except our technological world, libertarian values and industrial capitalist model, and the idea of a need for a globalized world. At least, Google will be saved (lol).

This also makes me see that essentially a third World War cannot happen, because the degree of destruction must astrologically be smaller than during WWII. No full scale nuclear war can happen, but a small regional regional war might. Also a conventional world war can happen, but on a smaller scale than WWII."

can you please please please explain what you mean on that in much detail because it leaves me very confused, how could we enter a third world war (and a resulting New world order) without nuclear apacalypse? and how will tecnology be saved? and what do you mean by the destruction being less then the last world wars? how did you calculate on the destruction? how do you draw your conlusions on that? is it comparison in terms of human death? in terms of buildings/enviornment being destroyed?

what shows you in astrology that it wont be a world war more severe then the others? how did you get to that conclusion?

you mention new world order, have you heard of the georgia guidestones?.

suma said...

also how could everything in society be destroyed besides our technology?

suma said...

you speak of a new world order,
can you please look at this with a open mind:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjmFm8PIz8M&feature=player_embedded

i know it gets people into conspiracy theories and bible prophecy and everything, but realisticly..can you see that happening?

Anonymous said...

There could other interpretations of what you see in 2028 besides yours.